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		<title>By: Senate Interception (Network Security) Amendments submission &#124; EFA</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>Senate Interception (Network Security) Amendments submission &#124; EFA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] previously made a submission to the Attorney-General&#8217;s Department on the exposure draft of thi.... We are happy to say that our concerns were addressed and that the new Bill appears to provide an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert H Mercer</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert H Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rastko&#039;s comment is of interest since all Socialist governments, including that bunch of Union dropouts led by Rudd the Dud, are totalitarian and generally have little or no idea about anything.....not just the internet.    Socialist dogma depends upon one thing - coercion and Rudd&#039;s stupid policies follow that ideology completely.   Democracy is a farce anyway but moreso under a group of Socialist idiots such as is attempting to subvert Australia today.    Add to that the total corruption of State and Federal politicians and we have a true picture of just where this country is headed.  
BTW Rudd cannot be mistaken for a Chinese.   He is not tall enough - having to look upward to be face-to-face with one and his intelligence is as limited as his stature.   Add to that his not speaking nor understanding English so I am sure he cannot possibly understand Chinese!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rastko&#8217;s comment is of interest since all Socialist governments, including that bunch of Union dropouts led by Rudd the Dud, are totalitarian and generally have little or no idea about anything&#8230;..not just the internet.    Socialist dogma depends upon one thing &#8211; coercion and Rudd&#8217;s stupid policies follow that ideology completely.   Democracy is a farce anyway but moreso under a group of Socialist idiots such as is attempting to subvert Australia today.    Add to that the total corruption of State and Federal politicians and we have a true picture of just where this country is headed.<br />
BTW Rudd cannot be mistaken for a Chinese.   He is not tall enough &#8211; having to look upward to be face-to-face with one and his intelligence is as limited as his stature.   Add to that his not speaking nor understanding English so I am sure he cannot possibly understand Chinese!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add this nonsense to the Vic Police &amp; State government&#039;s nifty new full time license plate scanning initiative and we have both Federal and State levels clearly illustrating that this is government &#039;Of the government, By the government, For the government&#039;

Quite totalitarian really ..... and all done under the same BS flag of &#039;security&#039;.  From *what* ?  China eat your heart out .... (maybe that&#039;s why Rudd is so linguistically sino-savvy .... he&#039;s a plant !  

- Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add this nonsense to the Vic Police &amp; State government&#8217;s nifty new full time license plate scanning initiative and we have both Federal and State levels clearly illustrating that this is government &#8216;Of the government, By the government, For the government&#8217;</p>
<p>Quite totalitarian really &#8230;.. and all done under the same BS flag of &#8217;security&#8217;.  From *what* ?  China eat your heart out &#8230;. (maybe that&#8217;s why Rudd is so linguistically sino-savvy &#8230;. he&#8217;s a plant !  </p>
<p>- Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Rastko</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>Rastko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT just shows that Rudd government is totalitarian, showing every sign of despotism.... 
Slowly but surely grows to be like Chinese or Iranian controlling government... If this goes trough democracy in this country is dead not that we have any</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT just shows that Rudd government is totalitarian, showing every sign of despotism&#8230;.<br />
Slowly but surely grows to be like Chinese or Iranian controlling government&#8230; If this goes trough democracy in this country is dead not that we have any</p>
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		<title>By: Jonno</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filtering is not the right solution - education would potentially be more effective.

Just drop the whole idea. Aust Govt can say they gave it good consideration but will not proceed.

The sceptic in me is concerned the government will be more concerned with losing face that any technical outcome. But that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filtering is not the right solution &#8211; education would potentially be more effective.</p>
<p>Just drop the whole idea. Aust Govt can say they gave it good consideration but will not proceed.</p>
<p>The sceptic in me is concerned the government will be more concerned with losing face that any technical outcome. But that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some interesting parallels between the situation in the UK where the government is more concerned with security issues than copyright infringers. 

Consultation closed in July on upcoming legislation (Interception Modernisation Programme) which proposes, amongst other things, interception and storing of traffic by ISPs. 

This has provoked a number of well considered responses from bodies such as:

* Information Commisioner&#039;s Office. See http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2009/ico_statement_imp.pdf

* London Internet Exchange (LINX) which represents the majority of UK ISPs. See http://publicaffairs.linx.net/public/uk/RIPA/LINX%20response%20IMP%20Condoc%20July%202009%20FINAL.doc

* London School of Economics Briefing on the Interception Modernisation Programme. See http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/informationSystems/research/policyEngagement/IMP_Briefing.pdf

Quite a bit here which should help inform debate on the forthcoming Australian legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some interesting parallels between the situation in the UK where the government is more concerned with security issues than copyright infringers. </p>
<p>Consultation closed in July on upcoming legislation (Interception Modernisation Programme) which proposes, amongst other things, interception and storing of traffic by ISPs. </p>
<p>This has provoked a number of well considered responses from bodies such as:</p>
<p>* Information Commisioner&#8217;s Office. See <a href="http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2009/ico_statement_imp.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2009/ico_statement_imp.pdf</a></p>
<p>* London Internet Exchange (LINX) which represents the majority of UK ISPs. See <a href="http://publicaffairs.linx.net/public/uk/RIPA/LINX%20response%20IMP%20Condoc%20July%202009%20FINAL.doc" rel="nofollow">http://publicaffairs.linx.net/public/uk/RIPA/LINX%20response%20IMP%20Condoc%20July%202009%20FINAL.doc</a></p>
<p>* London School of Economics Briefing on the Interception Modernisation Programme. See <a href="http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/informationSystems/research/policyEngagement/IMP_Briefing.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/informationSystems/research/policyEngagement/IMP_Briefing.pdf</a></p>
<p>Quite a bit here which should help inform debate on the forthcoming Australian legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Nic - we have borrowed from your submission for our (late) one which will be up soon on the Australian Privacy Foundation Website at www.privacy.org.au There is no excuse for this radical change being so rushed - they have known about the &#039;problem&#039; for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Nic &#8211; we have borrowed from your submission for our (late) one which will be up soon on the Australian Privacy Foundation Website at <a href="http://www.privacy.org.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.privacy.org.au</a> There is no excuse for this radical change being so rushed &#8211; they have known about the &#8216;problem&#8217; for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another frontal assault on the internet from the Rudd government. This is really starting to become an international embarrassment. Never before have I so deeply regretted voting for a party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another frontal assault on the internet from the Rudd government. This is really starting to become an international embarrassment. Never before have I so deeply regretted voting for a party.</p>
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		<title>By: Rastko</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Rastko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just show how much more Brudder 747 is leaning towards China model of state, spying on its own citizens. 
 Welcome to Australia where you have no rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just show how much more Brudder 747 is leaning towards China model of state, spying on its own citizens.<br />
 Welcome to Australia where you have no rights.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/comment-page-1/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our government completely fails to understand how the internet works, I 100% agree with you MattR! 

Oh well i&#039;ll just run all my internet through a VPN which i&#039;m about to get one lined up for me and a few mates. Hahahahha I&#039;ll take a punt that conroy has no idea what a VPN is, until he hears they completely bypass all filtering. 

I wish it was a little more like America here actually, as much as we all LOVE America here (sarcasm) I mean with their Constitution and how everyone takes it very seriously, I think it might be worth Australia adapting a new attitude. 

&quot;
    * Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression
    * Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms
    * Amendment 3 - Quartering of Soldiers
    * Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure 
&quot;

How come in Australia we seldom talk about our constitution? 

I must also ask this question as well, Why can&#039;t they spend money on something which will BENEFIT SOCIETY as a whole? i.e maybe focus on the NBN instead of how they want to filter our internet, monitor our internet, censor just about everything which can be censored. 
You know I think we might just be turning into China, And that is very worrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our government completely fails to understand how the internet works, I 100% agree with you MattR! </p>
<p>Oh well i&#8217;ll just run all my internet through a VPN which i&#8217;m about to get one lined up for me and a few mates. Hahahahha I&#8217;ll take a punt that conroy has no idea what a VPN is, until he hears they completely bypass all filtering. </p>
<p>I wish it was a little more like America here actually, as much as we all LOVE America here (sarcasm) I mean with their Constitution and how everyone takes it very seriously, I think it might be worth Australia adapting a new attitude. </p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
    * Amendment 1 &#8211; Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression<br />
    * Amendment 2 &#8211; Right to Bear Arms<br />
    * Amendment 3 &#8211; Quartering of Soldiers<br />
    * Amendment 4 &#8211; Search and Seizure<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>How come in Australia we seldom talk about our constitution? </p>
<p>I must also ask this question as well, Why can&#8217;t they spend money on something which will BENEFIT SOCIETY as a whole? i.e maybe focus on the NBN instead of how they want to filter our internet, monitor our internet, censor just about everything which can be censored.<br />
You know I think we might just be turning into China, And that is very worrying.</p>
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