Comments on: EFA concerned about movie industry lawsuit against iiNet

By: Christian Lobby thank Conroy for filtering update | EFA

Christian Lobby thank Conroy for filtering update | EFA — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:30:15 +0000

[...] illegal material – which it won’t be – how long do you think it would be before AFACT’s lawyers are lobbying for BitTorrent trackers to be added? Even members of Parliament have gone on record [...]

By: SteveOZ

SteveOZ — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:22:15 +0000

It is like the Government Suing Holden or Ford because someone drove a Holden or Ford in a Bank Job. What really stinks is the Government thinking we are so stupid as to fall for this type of garbage. Beware though, it is another way for the Government to ensure the ISP censor and monitor the net. At the end of the day, we can all vote with our feet!

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:42:23 +0000

What legal recourse do I have if they tell my ISP I have been downloading copyright material?

They are accusing me of committing an offence after all, surely that is slander at least.

By: Liam

Liam — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:09:47 +0000

Some points from the AUSFTA http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Copyright_IssuesandReviews_AUSFTAFreeTradeAgreement

Compliance with limitations on remedies for copyright infringement against carriage service providers is OPTIONAL

Limitations on remedies for copyright infringement only apply to carriage service providers who:
* Accommodate and not interfere with standard technical measures used to protect and identify copyright material in accordance with a relevant industry code
* On receipt of the notice of claimed infringement, the CSP must expeditiously remove or disable access to the material referred to in the notice

In plain english: Under the new free trade agreement, ISPs are exempt for being sued if they act as copyright police on behalf of copyright holders, and immediately respond to unsubstatiated claims by copyright holders.

Given such a law, it would be all too easy for ISPs to roll over and do as the RIAA/MPAA wishes. Kudos to iiNet for taking the fight to them

By: John

John — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:35:30 +0000

My main concern is how are the movie companies tracking this use and finding out the people downloading IP protected files. One way I know is offering the file themselves and monitoring who downloads the file, which I can not see as being illegal as the person who owns the copyright is giving you the file, sure you are not paying for the file but you are getting from the owner of the copy right with their permission given by them posting it for download. A policeman can not offer you drugs and than charge you if you accept them as it is entrapment. If they are using ways to monitor peoples downloads without offering the files where is my right to privacy, I could be sending something personal and they could monitor it and obtain the file. It seems more of a concern that a corporation is monitoring and envading peoples privacy in a way that most governement departments could not without legislation.

By: Jackson

Jackson — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:39:17 +0000

this doesn’t pass the smell test. People need to make some noise about this.

There are a lot more important issues than piracy and censorship to address in todays world.

This internet filtering program is an insult to the intelligence of any people who believe in freedom.

The Australian government is an embarrassment.

By: John

John — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:21:52 +0000

http://www.lawfont.com/2008/11/21/the-case-against-iinet/

By: Tama Leaver dot Net » AFACT vs iiNet (and convincing Australia’s teenagers they’re pirates)

Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:27:49 +0000

[...] 2: After writing the EFA response, Nic Suzor has a very robust look at the case on his blog, too. addthis_url = [...]

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:22:34 +0000

The internet is not going to go away. These media companies cannot sustain their outmoded business models. They are only trying to delay the inevitable. IP laws were created to support the public good. They are now being abused by a sniveling minority to the detriment of the public good. Rescind IP laws today.

By: Rastko Petrovic

Rastko Petrovic — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:22:24 +0000

Lets look at conspiracy theory
Iinet has been against proposed internet filtering and voicing their strong opinion….. Lets go after a small guy.
Telstra and Optus are doing the same. Why not go after them? lemme think….. Ah, because they can drag this through the courts and they are big players.
WHy don’t we sue phone company for making bomb threats, or sue electricity providers for providing electricity to run the computer that use P2P