Filtering Pilot and ACMA Blacklist – Not just “illegal” material
Filtering the blacklist
As the Government’s plans for Internet filtering move forward, the new details we learn do little to dampen concerns about the scheme. The technical issues remain as acute as ever, but to many of us the implications for Government control of speech on the Internet are just as significant. Yet the Government has consistently (some would say monotonously) referred to stamping out child pornography when defending its scheme to the public, and to the Parliament.
This is hardly a goal anyone could object to, but it has always been a disingenuous representation of a plan that has been sold as a cyber-safety measure. Nobody seriously suggested that children were looking at child porn. But could the Government be sincere when it says it only wants to “enforce existing laws?”
This intention has been belied by the Government’s own rhetoric. As recently as this Tuesday, the 11th November, Senator Conroy said, in answer to a question from Greens Senator Scott Ludlam:
The pilot will test filtering specifically against the ACMA blacklist of prohibited internet content,
which is mostly child pornography, as well as filtering of other unwanted content.
Not a few eyebrows are raised by that phrase; not many Australians trust a Government department to decide what information is “wanted” and what is not.
The terms of the pilot itself refer many times to the ACMA blacklist. So what is this blacklist? Is it the ultimate child-porn fighting tool used by the Australian Federal Police?
The current censorship regime
The Australian Communications and Media Authority, ACMA, is the Government’s media regulating body. They are separate from the Classification Board, which rates our movies, books and games, and not affiliated with a law enforcement agency. They aren’t a censorship agency per se. They are however, charged, under the Broadcasting Services Act, with regulating prohibited online content using a complaints based mechanism. What is prohibited is defined as:
- Any online content that is classified RC or X 18+ by the Classification Board. This includes child pornography, but also material that is X-rated pornography, violence, instruction in crime, drug use, or terrorism.
- Content which is classified R 18+ and not subject to a restricted access system that prevents access by children.
- Content which is classified MA 15+, provided by a mobile premium service or a service that provides audio or video content upon payment of a fee and that is not subject to a restricted access system.
As you can see, although child pornography would of course be prohibited, these criteria cover all pornography and very much more. (How many R18+ sites, especially those not dealing with sexuality, have an age-restriction mechanism in place?) When the ACMA receives a complaint from the public, they assess it against these criteria. If it matches, or they believe it probably would match if rated by the classification board, it goes on the blacklist. If the material is hosted in Australia, they can be sent a takedown notice. If the material is hosted overseas, it simply stays on the list, which is provided to commercial filter vendors.
Makeup of the blacklist
This is the tool that the Government plans to use as the basis of their mandatory, Internet-wide censorship scheme. The contents of the list are secret – it cannot even be obtained under Freedom of Information thanks to modifications to the FOI Act.
Although we don’t know what’s on it, the ACMA does publish some statistics on what is blocked and why. In the ACMA’s last report, 781 overseas sites were added to the list. Of these, 3 were pedophilia related, and 410 fell under the heading “RC – Child – Depiction.” The rest, 368 sites, were mostly X-rated (251) and other legal material, including some prohibited for nudity, violence, crime or even “sexual fantasy”. Previous years showed similar statistics. We also know there are around 1300 URLs total on the blacklist at the moment.
Only 3 sites were blocked for “pedophilia – promotion/instruction”. What constitutes a depiction of a child is not entirely clear. We can safely give the ACMA the benefit of the doubt that it is really child abuse material, but we know that in other circumstances, photographs of children that would be otherwise considered innocuous can be considered obscene when placed in a context where they may be viewed for unsavoury purposes.
As content becomes inaccessible, it is eventually removed from the list. Given that child pornography is illegal in every jurisdiction around the world, and is actively policed, it seems a logical assumption that these pages are far more likely to become inaccessible than the legal content on the list. Looking at the last 3 years worth of data, if we add the the last three year’s blacklists together, then subtract the “child-depiction” sites from previous years, we get about 1200 sites, close to the current list’s size. Under this assumption, the blacklist would be between a third and a half child-related material – certainly not the master list of child abuse it has been represented as.
Expanding the blacklist
Currently, the ACMA does not have a mandate to go searching for prohibited material. A site only comes to their notice when they receive a complaint. Given this fact, and the small size of the blacklist, it’s hard to see how it would be a useful tool even were it technically feasible to block access to its contents. It seems safe to assume that the Government intends to expand the blacklist and make the search for prohibited content more proactive than waiting for complaints.
It’s clear from above that if they did go looking for material, the overwhelming majority of it would be legal in the R18+ and X18+ range. Child pornography, because of its illegality around the world, is not even primarily distributed using the web and represents a miniscule fraction of total web content.
The Government is yet to explain under what terms the list will be expanded, who will decide what goes on it, and what mechanism will be available to correct errors. Unlike other forms of media, Internet censorship decisions are secret and not subject to review. Under these circumstances, we should urgently demand that the Government explain its reasons for introducing internet filtering. No compelling reason has so far been provided.
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The Blacklist will be very political in nature IMHO. I’m confident in saying that certain types of sites that have nothing to do with porn or alleged illegal activities. I would put money on certain sites making the list eg.
1) Criticism of the filter
2) Criticism of zionists
3) Criticism of the blacklist
4) Criticism of Israel
5) Drug law reform activist sites
6) So called revionist history sites
7) Criticism of Catholicism
8) Criticism of Judaism
9) Criticism of the homosexual lifestyle
10) And for sure in the near future : Criticism of the Goverment of the day .
And this list is just for starters
I do not want the governemnt touching the net.
its the only media left where you can find some alternative sources of news and information on just about anything you wish to seek.
DONT TOUCH IT DAM IT!!!!!
You can be assured, that most likely ALL safe natural remedies sites, compared to toxic artificial high profit drugs, which of course, generate huge $$$ profits, are gonna be suppressed, to prevent people from getting access to FACTS!!
There will be many others like it…
People aren’t supposed to know about secret societies that are in operation out there, the secret government, which is working behind the scenes, these are the REAL reasons these entities are determined, to keep the sheeple in ignorance, on what is truly going on out there!!…
Those who have the money $$$ have the power!
Something to be aware of!
Indeed this is deliberate Censorship presented under the guise/ smokescreen of ‘protecting our children’, which of course is the parents basic responsibility anyway!
Be forewarned on this!!..
Big brother is settling in down under.
makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
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Comdemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance
A. Einstein
http://www.edgemediatv.com/article001_icke.html
Surely there is something more worthy of all this money to be spent on.
With the ‘financial crisis’ and a chunk of the budget being given back to Australians, seems highly stupid to tamper with something thats existed happily for 20+ years, and is a source of income & employment for an increasing number of people in Australia.
ANY performance hit on Australian internet pushes us much much more further behind the current level for ‘developed countries’.
Commercial (paid for) Filtering Software (defeatable as below – afterall it was just rebadged super expensive tax payer paid software)
$84 million Aus.Gov FREE Filtering Software (downloaded 144k times, installed 29k times, defeated by 16yr old in 30mins)
Maybe the .gov didnt like being shown up by the 16yr old. But the fact is, if someones not willing to purchase a filter, are they really that concerned?
Moreso, if they dont utilize a FREE filter (free as in $84million) you must question really, how concerned they are?
I could understand the proposed (censorship) filter if it were indeed being created for those 29k computers whose protection was potentially defeated. (However its safe to say a great number of those are still happily running their rebadged net nanny software, and, possibly don’t want to pay for a clean feed because their $84mil filter is working fine for them).
The fact that this effort is aimed to push its censorship over 100% of the internet users of Australia, is simply a mis-comprehension of the governments service to its people. Or a very elaborate and hugely expensive exercise to fulfill a promise, most experienced internet users exclaimed “thats not possible” when he made the promise to become Prime Minister.
Bottom line, we will be made to pay for it, whether it works or it doesn’t. Whether we want it, or we don’t. Is it really in the people of Australian’s interests or one very powerful political persuader?
I am a adult webmaster that build and promote LEGAL adult websites I have been doing so since 1996. I am also a copyright agent for a adult copyright content company in the USA, I remove pirated adult content, Now if this filter is put into place I will not be able to work anymore, because I have to access forums and newsgroups that host and link to pirated adult content, also I will not be able to continue to work in the Adult webmaster industry, And there are 1000’s of other Australian adult webmasters that depend on the internet to make a living. So by this filter being put into place the Government will be putting myself and 1000’s of people out of business.
I am all for getting rid of child porn from the net, but shouldn’t we be stopping all the priests and religious groups that abuse children in our own country? they are the ones that want this law and they are also the ones committing these crimes against our kids.
I guess I will have to become a drug dealer now to make money
And the blacklist can be circumvented using one of many subscription VPN services around the world, some as cheap as 30 AUD per month (at current exchange rates). Bcuase VPNs are used by buusinesses for secure remote access to their networks, government would not DARE restrict or ban VPN.
At least ACMA won’t have to add “criticism of Islam” to the list. Muslim scholars have shied away from half decent exegesis work for years. The rest of us have been intimidated by the threat of mob violence!
I think this is a terrible plan. Ok filtering child porn is an admirable goal, although they have shown they do not understand the Internet or crime in general. Are they going to stop people flying to Thailand etc as well?
Filtering adult content is unacceptable. Adults need to be responsible for their children’s safety and content filtering.
We are all responsible for our own actions and the Government needs to get off my Internet connection.
In response to Aussie Adult Webmaster. You could still do your work, all you will need to do is to use a subcription VPN outside of Australia which will encrypt your traffic. These services cost about 30 AUD at currrent exchange rates. Barring that, get your boss to set up a VPN on his server, so that you can make an encrypted connecttion that authorites will not be able to monitor.
What happens to sites expressing people’s opinions on controversial government policy, eg those of us are pro-euthanasia (if I’m terminally ill and want it to end, I should be allowed that right)? It doesn’t seem right they can block sites that present opposing political viewpoints to the current government. In the future, how will people be able to find like minded people to lobby for change, if the very system (the internet) that is accessible to everyone is censored?
If the governments excuse is to reduce the exposure of children to inappropriate content, they’d be better off spending the funds on educating the parents on using computers, using “freely” available filters, and since it appears some parents can’t supervise their children, maybe on parenting in general.
And my last grievance, how can two senators, who represent such a small percantage of the population, hold so much sway over our government? Maybe we should divert funds to fix the whole sytem.
Considering child porn is illegal anyway policing it needs for the perp to access the site to create a trail.
This filter is not about child porn just as the working with children is not mainly about protecting children from pedophiles. The govt use that system to deny anyone with a criminal record the right to work or volunteer with children, just as it will use the filter to deny anyone that disagrees with their perception the right of an opinion or free speech.
This is about to make Australian a true totalitarian state, controlled by the religious minority.
There is no blacklist, and before you all call me wrong etc I have a reason.
The Black list is actually a white lsit (and no I’m not trying to make a pun). The list will consist of safe sites rather than bad ones. Really think about this a white list that could be plausible. If you have any idea of how many sites are actually on the net you’d under me when I say we are becoming the next Russia.
Crow
Boy, that latest letter from Mark Newton was well written! I vote he be the next Comms. minister. He is surely up to the task in technical knowledge. And, I also support him in his call for Mr. Conroy’s resignation! I think we should all be asking for this as it will send a clear message that Australians will not put up with a dictator in parliament.
One good question is whether this would be unconsitituaional under a proposed Australia constitution I saw some years ago on the Net.
One proposed constitution for when Australia becomes a Republic would include protections for free speech. It would be interesting to see how the High Court would view the filtering regime if the proposed constitution I once saw ever came into force in Australia. With the possibility of Australia becoming a Republic in a few years, Parliament needs to consider whether the filtering regime would possible violate any futre constitution.
What are we going to do about this? I am surprised at the lack of protest from Australians over this issue. We need to get out there, and show the government how many people are against this totalitarian policy. Who’s with me?
Australiens should be fearfull look at china and the Tibetan Buddhist monks is this australia. under king communist Rudd Government:
Hey WhiteLight.. Number 6 – you mean holocaust denial websites? you can say it don’t hide behind vagueness..
http://bumphlegm.com/2008/11/28/one-thousand-internets-for-the-head-of-stephen-conroy/
Thats exactly what I meant Michael , it was nothing more than a hastily composed comment typo, I can assure you it was NOT intentional, you can’t edit these comments and I assumed most would know what I meant .
I again reaffirm my comment , IMHO the sites I originally named in my list of 10 are at risk of being blocked further I would add …..
11) History of usury banking
12) The fiat money system
13) Alternative therapies that bypass BIG Pharma
14) Euthanasia
15) Chairman Ruddski & comrade Senator Conjobski
this link contains images that may be offensive to some people. it also contains an accurate description of stephen conroy.
we do acknowledge that poor stevie is just playing the party game, whether he agrees or not however in saying that if the policies of the party you represent are shite and you continue to represent them rather than oppose them then transitively you too become shite and end up being the focus for all my hate….
http://bumphlegm.com/2008/12/01/stephen-conroy-what-an-arsehole/
I think it’s about time this debate was opened out to encompass the entire issue.
Google these terms
afact australia copyright
and look for a .pdf on the ACMA site called “Afact RAS submission”.
If that document does not refocus the debate, I gidve up!
I hope they don’t implement a filter because of the decreased speeds.
WhiteLight: If you really care about the filtering of the sites you just listed then you sound like an anti-Semitic homophobe, are you? Don’t worry, I’m sure your neo-nazi, “Jewish banking conspiracy theory”, and fundamentalist Christian “Family values” sites are, unfortunately, safe for now.
I think that its people like you WhiteLite that are going to garner SUPPORT for filtering rather then any opposition. Most people (including myself) would not care about the censoring of moronic and illogical hate-speech sites like the ones that you have just listed.
I see FiltersSuck , you can believe what ever you want to believe funny thing though every ridiculous assumption you made is so far off the mark it beggars belief.
I’m an Atheist just for starters and I believe that all censorship is insidious.
I know this about you though , you are a pro-filter proponent , why ? You believe its OK to censor sites that you find disagreeable or moronic or (this one is really funny) “illogical” .
You think because I’m willing to defend the right to free speech for sites that for what ever reason you find offensive ,then this makes me in your words a “homophobe, anti-semitic(whatever that means) neo-nazi,Christian Family Value(I suppose you mean fundamentalist), conspiracy theorist” Gee pal why didn’t you ad puppy murderer as well ?
You can’t have an each way bet , its all or none , you can’t cherry pick what you find offensive and blacklist that and allow sites that you believe to be acceptable thats what Conroy & Fielding types want ,wake up
I want child protection – who does not, that is what they use to get the law to pass, they use our emotions that want to protect. But the real reason becomes clearer later on, when it’s to late. The real reason is to censor people so that the only news, information that we are feed is what they want us to hear. Does sound like China and the like.
As with all things people will break the law, people will abuse freedoms no matter how we try to protect. Look at road laws, look at the internet, look at TV, look down the road, look at walls and fences. All around us people will do these things. We the people must be vigilant, but we want to be lazy and let the government and others do it for us. Parents must protect their children with the assistance of teachers (when in their care), families, friends, neighbours. – maybe be a bit old fashion, but look out for each other, that is the best protection, not internet filtering in which the real agenda only becomes clear later on.
contin. Look at IVF. They passed the law to assist those couples that could not have children due to low sperm count or some other problem. They passed the law based on our emotion to want to help others. Now they have passed the law for what they really wanted single women who do not want a commitment to a man and lesbians. If you want to live a certain lifestyle – that is your right – no problem, but to bypass the natural law to have what you want and not consider the child in this is wrong. They now say the law is fair, well I’m a single male, I do not have access to IVF so how is it really fair. The same logic need to be applied to the Internet Filtering system. The real reason is hidden and it must not take place. Do not let them pass it.
a brief history of clean feed in australia is given in this weeks stephen conroy corner @ bumphlegm.com (not safe for work)… here it is
http://bumphlegm.com/2008/12/08/the-complete-history-of-clean-feed-in-australia/
This is a really cool idea maybe they should filter it even some more no contect over Gy, and also have a forced religon, and forced …… where do you stop,
The real question here is why should the Government bother? If people look for the nasty stuff they get caught by the cybercops. Cybercops even prowl sites looking for child sex groomers by inviting them out for an ambush by the sex police. Pump $50 million into that and give these sex crooks a real jail sentence and problem solved. Worried about your kid learning how to skin people alive, make methamphetamine? Then bloody well parent properly. Sheesh. What about adults looking up these things? Well once again this is the job for the cybercops, and the real cops, not this filtering nonsense.
The focus is a wrong and token effort. If the internet turned off tomorrow, sex offenders will always get banned material, psychos will always learn silent killing techniques, terrorists will always make bombs and crime syndicates will always make meth.
Knowledge and exposure is a weapon of destruction in the hands of the few and a weapon of power and governance in the hands of the many.
Information on internet censorship, it seems to be happening everywhere,
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=n_T-DOishkk&eurl=http://www.google.com.au/reader/view/?tab=my&feature=player_embedded
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cvX_TmAm7xM
Is this global agenda?
hehehe and then EFA goes and removes my last post – internet censorship by the kids trying to stop it…thanks team
100%dirtyfeed: moderation != censorship. Your last post did not add anything to the debate, and appears to be a crass attempt at humour or shock that isn’t appropriate for our site. I don’t mind if you post that on your own site, but it’s not censorship for us to refuse to republish your comments on ours.
Cheers,
nic.
Removing goatse-style images seems good housekeeping on a professional site.
Rickrolls are fair game, however.
Quite frankly, I think this is stupid. Yes get rid of child porn as it is disgusting and I don’t know how anyone could do shit like that to a child. But don’t do it this way. It won’t work. There is an international task force hunting down child pornographers. The Australian Government would be a whole lot more successful if they helped the international task force, rather than putting up a compulsory internet filter that will slow down our already crap internet, piss the whole Australian Internet Community off and be easily circumvented by people who really want to get through it.
as a parent i am confused by what is going on here. everyone seems to be talking about protecting the children and filtering child pornography. i have no objection to my 10 yeaar old daughter looking at child porn. where is the harm there? children are curious and need to learn about the human condition the same way we did. similarly if she wants to have consensual sex with another minor how can i object? we raise our children to be able to make their own judgments on such matters in the hope they grow to be independant well developed human beings.
..cont’d..
its adults looking at pornography containing minors i find disturbing. although one must ask how you can say a picture of a consensual minor a day away from 18 is illegal but a picture of the same person in the same context a day later is legal. how can we put a fixed age on when one is educated and mature enough to make their own decisions without pressure or influence from outside? for everyone this is different. i know adults who are easily led and unable to make choices for themselves. not everything in life is so clearly black and white that you can just say yes or no, right or wrong.
..cont’d..
we put near naked teenage singers on our tv every sunday morning for us all to watch, from the day our children were born we force upon them horrific gender stereotypes that should have been left in the 1950’s and yet somehow an expensive and annoying filter that everyone knows how to bypass is going to save our children? i’m more worried about what might happen if a paedophile can’t get their fix from images on the internet. where will they look next i wonder. our schools and playgrounds? wouldn’t putting an extra $44mil into finding the adults who create these images or actually sleep with minors be a better way to help our children?
If an $84 million filter was installed 29k times that’s $2,896 tax dollars wasted per installtion.
It is simply unjust. If I wish to expose myself to various sites regarding acts of violence, criticism regarding things that WhiteLight has said – it is simply that. MY choice. If they were to censor such materials, these things will still exists and I in turn become less informed regarding the various issues.
It doesn’t sound right to me, when they constantly say that their motive behind this whole act is to remove child pornography – which can’t be argued with. And then – as if it were a side note, state that other sites will also be censored.
The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.
– Adolf Hitler
Sums this situation up in a nutshell.
Wow, look at the time.
1984 already?
Does anyone has any evidence that Criticism of Zionists and Criticism of Israel is going to be illegal?
There doesnot seems to be any evidence whatsoever that Criticising Zionism or Israel or the human rights of Muslims is or will be in any shape or form in Australia an illegal act in PAst present or Future
Please do not stop criticising Zionism or Israel for the existence of Palestine and their land Palestine.
Any criticism against Israel and Zionism got nothing to do with Judaism. One can ask a question like who is a Jews or not. However, in many European countries denial of “holocaust” is a punishable crime and I find it offensive and unacceptable! Therefore, my position is we should be allowed to criticise any race and religion or no one. We can not afford to have double standard. No one is chosen people or superior race.
Final Statement and Not Final Solution
These maps UN Partition Plan (1947), The genuine offer of Ehud Barak at Camp David in the year 2000 and Israel Today (within boundaries and cease-fire lines) are demonstrating expansion continuum of Israel and gradual disappearance of Palestine. They are consistent with Israeli MANIFEST DESTINY.
Hamas was created by Israel and now it is backfiring! Therefore it is not a Muslim problem. Most importantly Hamas is a lawfully elected sovereign government and NOT a terrorist organisation.
How Israel tricked Hamas before launching Gaza strikes, How do the Zionists tricked the world? and Not Rockets – Zionism Is the Reason! are a few more evidence to prove the fact that:
1. Israel can afford to attack and massacre stick and stone throwing Palestinians in the longest running concentration camp known to mankind with a stamp of infinity and
2. “therroristh khamas” (sic) rockets are propaganda tools only to justify Israeli war crime and genocide as well as for the upcoming election campaign. I say so because, over the last eight years “therroristh khamas rocket” killed 16 Israelis and Israeli bombs and bullets killed 80 000 Palestinians only beside other losses and casualties!
Israel Palestine conflict is not a religious conflict. It is a conflict of land. However, Israelis are using religion like:
1. “God gave us this land”.
2. “This holy land is for the Jews only and not for gentiles”. Therefore they have the right to expel non Jews i.e. Muslims, Christians, etc. etc as they have been doing so for the last sixty years with the assistance of USA, UK, Australia, … .
3. “We are the chosen people of God”.
4. “We are the master race …. .”
By the same time they have been engineering outrageous, crude, false and fabricated attacks on Arabs, Islam and Muslims. However, if any Muslim hits back they cry for “anti-Semitism” while in reality, Muslims and Arabs are more Semite than blue eyed and blonde haired Zionist invaders. Penultimately, Muslims used protect the Jews and now they are paying back to Muslims very nicely with the Jewish tradition.
Source: Free Australia Now
As usual the fraud of all religions try to take over every discussion with their bullshit.If you want to believe in fairy tales fine but keep your religion out of my politics.
Neither side of islam v judaism is right , all religion is fraud pepetuated by man to control other men. Be free think outside the box of conformity religion imposes on you.
Believe what you will just stop trying to impose it on everyone.
grow up – your comment is SPOT ON!
7 months after this thread died (9 months after the original post) it got resurrected by some religious rubbish. I recieve follow-up comments via email because i’m interested in comments relating directly to the blacklist, not some religious waffle.
thats how they operate Devz, gives an idea to how they became so established within our communities doesn’t it?
there is not one iota of truth in any of it yet our foolish society grants them credibility based on their own say so and no more.
The fact they operate in a tax free environment, while suggesting “sin” taxes to our government is reprehensible. Its about time society put all religion back where it belongs, in the personal thoughts of the individual rather than attempting to impose their perverse morality upon us all.
rant over
WhiteLight’ initial post appears to be less factual. However a fear of that nature is justified due to the continuous misuse and abuse of some religion and events like holocaust. His last posting supports the notion of free speech. I also support the notion of free speech all the way.
Some people have already used religion in this thread improperly (comment #9 of Mark). From my experience, they do so because they can get away with it and some of them are victims of their own propaganda. .
Nonetheless, I support free speech without fear or favor. I also believe all human beings are equal regardless of sex, race and religion.
Hypothetically, if we are allowed to insult Christianity, Islam, …. Then we must be allowed to insult Judaism too. The same position follows for Israelis and Palestinians! Remember, no one is sanctified!
Free speech for all or no one! Insult and abuse all or no one!! I say so not that I want to insult or abuse anyone. I am saying so to make it clear that no one is “chosen”, “superior”, “master race”, etc. etc.
“I am saying so to make it clear that no one is “chosen”, “superior”, “master race”, etc. etc.”
Nor is there any God. So that settles that, we are all, average, animals manipulated by money to perform the tasks of others.
Lets just all stick to whats provable & existent today. The effect of dwelling in the past and focusing on things not proven or provable, is greatly the reason why we continue to ruin our existence & where we live, planet Earth.
Hang on it is not only religion! Some other non religious movements (may be some cults) are behind many wars, brain washings, distortion of the truth and silencing the free speech. Let’s keep an eye on all of them.
None of us are above the law and beyond scrutiny!
The Sacred Cow
No one would be crucified, should one wish to deny Jesus, Moses, Muhammad or Buda. Even no one would punish anyone for telling, “the capitalism is the conspiracy of rich and powerful”. However, the denial of so-called holocaust is the cardinal sin of the century! May I ask, why? Yet, the same holocaust traders are denying the most painful and slow motion holocaust in the occupied Palestine in front of every one! What a blatant hypocrisy!!! What a double standard!!!!
During the Second World War 50 million people died. However, these racist and fascist holocaust traders are shading their crocodile tears for “lost and found six millions”! May I ask what about the solid 44 millions? Are they worthless? What about the English holocaust in Ireland! And the British holocaust in Bengal in and around the same time frame of Mr. Adolph Hitler’s holocaust!
Today the evil empire of Rupert Murdoch deliberately misquoted a Sydney cleric and the rest of the zionised media are also doing everything to incite sectarian and racist sentiment in the society based on that ugly piece of journalism. Even both, the Labor and Liberal politicians are competing to land their support for Zionism.
By the way, looking at the brilliant track record of ‘sanctified’ Israel and the theory of the survival of the fittest; one can say, “so called Hitler’s holocaust is well and truly justified due the present and past reality demonstrated by the holocaust traders”. Recent examples of Gaza Strip and Lebanon would be sufficient enough to prove the case.
Furthermore, the Zionism is older than Nazism and it appears; the Nazis have found out and borrowed many dirty tricks and tactics from the Zionists. Therefore in many ways, the Zionists are responsible for Nazi atrocities.
However, the Zionism is worse than Nazism as one was the product of a few mad people during a difficult period of time comparing Zionism – which is the product of millions of Israelis and their supporters stretching across half a century with a stamp of infinity!
The Nazism is based on German nationalism and Zionism is based on Jewish nationalism. The Nazism subscribes on racial purity and supremacy. The Zionism subscribes on religious purity and supremacy and eventually ends up with racial supremacy and purity like Nazism!
The Zionists are milking the “Holocaust Cow” while conducting war crimes, massacres and genocides in the longest running concentration camps of the universe located in the occupied Palestine with a stamp of infinity!
Source: http://jewishstyle.blogspot.com/2007/04/sacred-cow.html
every religion is fraud Faruque, , some violent some not, some creating an illusion to appear none violent. Either way none have a place in this discussion other than to be referred to in a general manner as done by whitelight. It seems as you should re read the initial post by whitelight as its most apprent to me he is in complete agrreance to what you are trying to get across. ANd from what i know of the bloke, i think he agrees with you.
The point is no religion should have the protection of an internet censorship regime. Every religion like every other aspect of humanity must be open to scrutiny, however most religions will not allow such, in fact most become most hypocritical when their belief structure is shown as flawed beyond all comprehension.
Anyone who says that “Zionism is worse than Nazism” has got to be either a moron and/or severely self-deluded and, as a consequence, utterly incapable of objectively assessing historical data. Faruque Ahmed is one such individual.
Occasionally, though rarely, he’ll say something intelligent like “Any criticism against Israel and Zionism got nothing to do with Judaism.” Honest critics of Israel’s domination of Palestine know this to be true and draw a strict distinction between the often oppressive actions of the Israeli state and Judaism itself. But Faruque Ahmed, being the hypocrite and fool that he is, violates his own maxim time and time again! For him, the term Jew is synonymous with oppressor, not only in occupied Palestine but anywhere the Jew exists. This paranoid and stupid belief can be seen in any number of his writings in the Jew-hating, Nazi-ridden, Yahoogroup that he hosts, “Free America Now.” Search especially for his masterpiece of imbecilic anti-Semitism entitled “Ugly Judaism Is Not Compatible With Any Religion.”
As one ploughs through Faruque Ahmed’s demented writings one quickly understands that when he claims to believe that “all human beings are equal regardless of sex, race and religion” he is lying through his teeth. In fact, Faruque Ahmed hates Jews, all Jews, and makes this abundantly clear in his paranoid diatribes. Like the Nazis before him Faruque Ahmed regards Jews as a pestilence. One can only imagine what solution he envisages for this pestilence. Whatever it may be, he has, to my knowledge at least, never been stupid enough to publicly state it. But knowing how stupid he is, no doubt one day he will.
To stay on topic, there is no way that Jew-hating nutcases like Faruque Ahmed, or any other other variety of nutcase for that matter, should have their e-communications filtered by governments. These lunatics should be kept in the open where they can be monitored, analysed, criticised and acted upon.
Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier
The Electronic Frontier is a fair and credible discussion forum. In order to maintain the level of intelligence and integrity of this institution, I am going to ignore all of your habitual and ill motivated personal vilification. I’ll rather present my six points format to demonstrate the fact that’;
1. The Israeli Holocaust in the occupied Palestine was conspired long before Hitler’s one.
2. Who Is a True Jew?, Who Is a Semite? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture? To prove that the real “Jews” are dead, Israelis are NOT Semites and Judeo-Christian culture does not exist.
For an enjoyable and alternative read and comment you can visit the link below.
Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier
http://pcjqanj.blogspot.com/2010/02/faruque-hunter-of-electronic-frontier.html
Evidence 1 When Theodore Hertzl, the ideological founder of the Zionist movements in the 1890s, was asked what he proposed to do with the indigenous Palestinian population when his “state of the Jews” become a reality, he replied, “We will quietly spirit them across the boarder”.
Source: Free America Now
Evidence 2 In 1923 Vladimir Jabotinsky, leading intellectual of the Zionist movement and father of the right wing of that movement,… wrote: “Zionist colonization must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an The Iron Wall , which the native population cannot breach.” First published in Russian under the title O Zheleznoi Stene in Rassvyet, 4 November 1923. Source: The Iron Wall
Evidence 3 Joseph Weitz, the head of the Jewish Agency’s colonization department, confirmed this in his 1940 diary. “It must be clear”, he wrote, “that there is no room for both people’s together in this country … not one (Arab) village, not one tribe should be left”. Source: Free America Now
Who Is a True Jew?
If you got an open mind then I have got news for you!
According to Jewish, Christian and Muslim documents true Jews do not exist!
Do you know what are they? Are they following some cults other than Judaism?
When Moses went to free the Jews from the Pharaohs captivity, he was scared of Egyptian magic (similar to US high tech?). God said to Moses, “don’t be afraid, throw your stick and witness your God’s power”. ……… .
Moses convinced the Pharaoh and freed his people! Moses parted the Arabian Sea and freed the Jews from slavery. Then Moses went to speak to God and thank him for saving his people. God said to Moses, “do you know what are your people doing”? Moses said, “they are praying for you”.
God said, “go and find out”.
Moses went to his people and found, only his brother Aaron and a couple of people were following him and the rest of them were drinking, gambling, fornicating, praying to golden sheaf, ….
Now, please tell me who is a real Jew? I say so despite the fact that I am willing to respect all religion and tolerant to all cultural sensitivities.
Source: Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?
Who Is a Semite?
Further to Do You Know Who Is a True Jew? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture?; can we establish who is a Semite?
Sem•ite (s m t ) KEY NOUN:
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
A Jew.
Bible A descendant of Shem.
A group of people who falsely claim to be Jew and they may not have even 0.1% Semitic blood or mixed with hundreds of European bloods can not be a true Semite!
Anyway, under what law, moral or authority a Semite is superior to non-Semites?!
Source: Can We Ask, Who Is a Semite?
What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
The Jews do not accept Jesus as Messiah!
Christians also view him as the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament; however, Judaism rejects these claims. Islam considers Jesus a prophet and also the Messiah[4] while several other religions revere him in some way.
Judaism’s view of Jesus does not give us an iota of evidence in support of Judeo-Christian culture!
The belief that Jesus is God, a person of the Trinity, the Messiah, or a prophet of God are incompatible with traditional Jewish tenets. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[6] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint.
The belief in the Trinity, as with many other central Christian doctrines,[7] is also held to be incompatible with Judaism.
The New Testament is clear in teaching that the Jews murdered Jesus. It states this explicitly and repeatedly, in different settings, and in various ways. It states that the Jews intended to kill Jesus, that they plotted to kill Jesus, that they tried to kill Jesus, that they would kill Jesus, and that they did kill Jesus. Here Paul writes, “the Jews…killed the Lord Jesus” (v. 15) – a direct, concise, and explicit statement that the Jews murdered Jesus. This fact receives repeated emphasis in the preaching of the apostles, whether they are addressing Jews, or whether they are addressing Gentiles, as in this letter to the Thessalonians.
What World-famous Men have said About the Jews and above statements clearly demonstrate that the Jews conspired to murder Jesus at Jerusalem and later his brother James at Rome. On the other hand the Muslims respect Jesus and his mother Marry.
Therefore dreaming and falsely engineering a romantic relation between the Jews and Christians does not stand. So is the notion of Judeo-Christian culture.
Source: What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
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Further to Do You Know Who Is a True Jew? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture?; can we establish who is a Semite?
Sem•ite (s m t ) KEY NOUN:
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
A Jew.
Bible A descendant of Shem.
A group of people who falsely claim to be Jew and they may not have even 0.1% Semitic blood or mixed with hundreds of European bloods can not be a true Semite!
Anyway, under what law, moral or authority a Semite is superior to non-Semites?!
Source: Who Is a Semite?
P.S. Link is for verification and not for publicity.
What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
The Jews do not accept Jesus as Messiah!
Christians also view him as the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament; however, Judaism rejects these claims. Islam considers Jesus a prophet and also the Messiah[4] while several other religions revere him in some way.
Judaism’s view of Jesus does not give us an iota of evidence in support of Judeo-Christian culture!
The belief that Jesus is God, a person of the Trinity, the Messiah, or a prophet of God are incompatible with traditional Jewish tenets. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[6] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint.
The belief in the Trinity, as with many other central Christian doctrines,[7] is also held to be incompatible with Judaism.
The New Testament is clear in teaching that the Jews murdered Jesus. It states this explicitly and repeatedly, in different settings, and in various ways. It states that the Jews intended to kill Jesus, that they plotted to kill Jesus, that they tried to kill Jesus, that they would kill Jesus, and that they did kill Jesus. Here Paul writes, “the Jews…killed the Lord Jesus” (v. 15) – a direct, concise, and explicit statement that the Jews murdered Jesus. This fact receives repeated emphasis in the preaching of the apostles, whether they are addressing Jews, or whether they are addressing Gentiles, as in this letter to the Thessalonians.
What World-famous Men have said About the Jews and above statements clearly demonstrate that the Jews conspired to murder Jesus at Jerusalem and later his brother James at Rome. On the other hand the Muslims respect Jesus and his mother Marry.
Therefore dreaming and falsely engineering a romantic relation between the Jews and Christians does not stand. So is the notion of Judeo-Christian culture.
Source: What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
P.S. Link is for verification and not for publicity.
Are We Allowed to Ask Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?
If you got an open mind then I have got news for you!
According to Jewish, Christian and Muslim documents true Jews do not exist!
Do you know what are they? Are they following some cults other than Judaism?
When Moses went to free the Jews from the Pharaohs captivity, he was scared of Egyptian magic (similar to US high tech?). God said to Moses, “don’t be afraid, throw your stick and witness your God’s power”. ……… .
Moses convinced the Pharaoh and freed his people! Moses parted the Arabian Sea and freed the Jews from slavery. Then Moses went to speak to God and thank him for saving his people. God said to Moses, “do you know what are your people doing”? Moses said, “they are praying for you”.
God said, “go and find out”.
Moses went to his people and found, only his brother Aaron and a couple of people were following him and the rest of them were drinking, gambling, fornicating, praying to golden sheaf, ….
Now, please tell me who is a real Jew? I say so despite the fact that I am willing to respect all religion and tolerant to all cultural sensitivities.
Source: Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?
P.S. Link is for verification and not for publicity.
Who Is a Semite?, Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?, What is a Judeo-Christian culture?,
Faruque Ahmed’s Letter to ACMA is common sense approach. The ACMA Reply to Faruque Ahmed is a result of due process of law. Faruque Ahmed’s Letter to Radio 2UE a necessary beast! Radio 2UE Response to Faruque Ahmed is frustrating and a reflection of the media culture of Australia. Faruque Ahmed’s Communication with the ACMA will be a test case after the Cash for Comment Inquiry.
David Oldfield, David Oldfield to David Oldfield, Taxi Mafia Inspired Blockade (Radio 2 UE), David Oldfield to Jim Ball and Taxi Mafia Inspired Blockade (Radio 2GB) are self explanatory.
NSW Anti-Discrimination Board, Faruque Ahmed vs Radio Terrorists, Promoting Muslim and Christian Bashing and Child Molester Alan Jonesmay provide a more information about this particular radio station and shock jocks.
Faruque Ahmed
Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier
The Electronic Frontier is a fair and credible discussion forum. In order to maintain the level of intelligence and integrity of this institution, I am going to ignore all of your habitual and ill motivated personal vilification. I’ll rather present my six points format to demonstrate the fact that’;
1. The Israeli Holocaust in the occupied Palestine was conspired long before Hitler’s one.
2. Who Is a True Jew?, Who Is a Semite? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture? To prove that the real “Jews” are dead, Israelis are NOT Semites and Judeo-Christian culture does not exist.
For an enjoyable and alternative read and comment you can visit the link below.
Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier
http://pcjqanj.blogspot.com/2010/02/faruque-hunter-of-electronic-frontier.html
Evidence 1 When Theodore Hertzl, the ideological founder of the Zionist movements in the 1890s, was asked what he proposed to do with the indigenous Palestinian population when his “state of the Jews” become a reality, he replied, “We will quietly spirit them across the boarder”.
Source: Free America Now
Evidence 2 In 1923 Vladimir Jabotinsky, leading intellectual of the Zionist movement and father of the right wing of that movement,… wrote: “Zionist colonization must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an The Iron Wall , which the native population cannot breach.” First published in Russian under the title O Zheleznoi Stene in Rassvyet, 4 November 1923. Source: The Iron Wall
Evidence 3 Joseph Weitz, the head of the Jewish Agency’s colonization department, confirmed this in his 1940 diary. “It must be clear”, he wrote, “that there is no room for both people’s together in this country … not one (Arab) village, not one tribe should be left”. Source: Free America Now
Who Is a True Jew?
If you got an open mind then I have got news for you!
According to Jewish, Christian and Muslim documents true Jews do not exist!
Do you know what are they? Are they following some cults other than Judaism?
When Moses went to free the Jews from the Pharaohs captivity, he was scared of Egyptian magic (similar to US high tech?). God said to Moses, “don’t be afraid, throw your stick and witness your God’s power”. ……… .
Moses convinced the Pharaoh and freed his people! Moses parted the Arabian Sea and freed the Jews from slavery. Then Moses went to speak to God and thank him for saving his people. God said to Moses, “do you know what are your people doing”? Moses said, “they are praying for you”.
God said, “go and find out”.
Moses went to his people and found, only his brother Aaron and a couple of people were following him and the rest of them were drinking, gambling, fornicating, praying to golden sheaf, ….
Now, please tell me who is a real Jew? I say so despite the fact that I am willing to respect all religion and tolerant to all cultural sensitivities.
Source: Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?
Who Is a Semite?
Further to Do You Know Who Is a True Jew? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture?; can we establish who is a Semite?
Sem•ite (s m t ) KEY NOUN:
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
A Jew.
Bible A descendant of Shem.
A group of people who falsely claim to be Jew and they may not have even 0.1% Semitic blood or mixed with hundreds of European bloods can not be a true Semite!
Anyway, under what law, moral or authority a Semite is superior to non-Semites?!
Source: Can We Ask, Who Is a Semite?
What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
The Jews do not accept Jesus as Messiah!
Christians also view him as the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament; however, Judaism rejects these claims. Islam considers Jesus a prophet and also the Messiah[4] while several other religions revere him in some way.
Judaism’s view of Jesus does not give us an iota of evidence in support of Judeo-Christian culture!
The belief that Jesus is God, a person of the Trinity, the Messiah, or a prophet of God are incompatible with traditional Jewish tenets. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[6] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint.
The belief in the Trinity, as with many other central Christian doctrines,[7] is also held to be incompatible with Judaism.
The New Testament is clear in teaching that the Jews murdered Jesus. It states this explicitly and repeatedly, in different settings, and in various ways. It states that the Jews intended to kill Jesus, that they plotted to kill Jesus, that they tried to kill Jesus, that they would kill Jesus, and that they did kill Jesus. Here Paul writes, “the Jews…killed the Lord Jesus” (v. 15) – a direct, concise, and explicit statement that the Jews murdered Jesus. This fact receives repeated emphasis in the preaching of the apostles, whether they are addressing Jews, or whether they are addressing Gentiles, as in this letter to the Thessalonians.
What World-famous Men have said About the Jews and above statements clearly demonstrate that the Jews conspired to murder Jesus at Jerusalem and later his brother James at Rome. On the other hand the Muslims respect Jesus and his mother Marry.
Therefore dreaming and falsely engineering a romantic relation between the Jews and Christians does not stand. So is the notion of Judeo-Christian culture.
Source: What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
Faruque Ahmed: “The Electronic Frontier is a fair and credible discussion forum. In order to maintain the level of intelligence and integrity of the institution, I am going to ignore all of your habitual and ill motivated personal vilification.”
Faruque Ahmed, if you seriously wanted to “maintain the level of intelligence and integrity of the institution” then you would piss off. The truth is you prefer to ignore what I say because you have no answers for it. As Ever, your only recourse is to cut and paste a slab of your stock gibberish that doesn’t relate to anything, that makes such bizarre and poorly-argued claims, and proves nothing other than that you’re an idiot.
When are you going to substantiate your claim that the Israelis are worse than Hitler? (Sorry, Faruque, it’ll take a more than a brief quote from Theodore Hertzl from over a century ago.)
When are you going to substantiate your claim that genocide is being perpetrated by Israel against the Arabs?
If the Israelis are perpetrating genocide against the Arabs then why are there almost a million Arabs living in Israel as enfranchised Israeli citizens?
If the Israelis are perpetrating genocide against the Arabs then why is Israel one of the few countries in the Middle East where Arabs have the right to vote?
You are doing the Palestinian people no service at all with your lies and gibberish, Faruque Ahmed.
By the way, a Jew is someone whose mother was Jewish and who has adopted the Jewish identity. Simple, isn’t it?
Reply no- a20001, Comments posted by ‘Faruque hunter — February 6, 2010 @ 8:35 am” are
Biased and do not have enough substance, whereas Faruque Ahmed’ Comments are supported by videos on you tube and the Victims of Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan And Current Anti Iran propaganda.
To be Honest 12 Zionist families in NY own the USA.( THIS IS TRUTH ,IT CANNOT BE DENIED)
And the rest of the allies of USA plus the USA itself has a very negative future.
Why Because it Is owned and run by Zionists who pump 14 cents of every dollar paid by Taxpayers to Fascist Israel.
http://www.usdebtclock.org
The Check Points , The preplanned murder s of 4 year old children’s, Then Selling their body parts to US, May be line eats the flesh as well
The Israelis have crossed every limit which Hitler Had.
Why not see the achieves Professor of Political Science
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
Faruque hunter you provocateur me to do the same what you have done to Palestinians.
Please don’t force me, to do that, To those little Zionist …..
“Faruque hunter you provocateur me to do the same what you have done to Palestinians.”
Anti JJX (Faruque Ahmed), you are a moron.
I, you moron, have done nothing to Palestinians other than support their struggle for self-determination. What I oppose is morons like you who spread stupid hate-speech about Jews and Israel. If Palestinians ever get their independence it’ll be with the support of sympathetic Jewish elements in Israel, of which there are many. Your moronic Jew-hatred does nothing but contribute towards alienating these elements.
The last thing Palestinians need is a moron like you speaking on their behalf.
hunting Faruque Hunter is my Job, I am Just doing my Job.
The Bounty is Satisfaction while protecting Humanity from Zionist Israelis.
Hunting Faruque Hunter,
Is very easy! People like him think they have got license to insult and abuse people. Generally speaking, they don’t have an iota of evidence. They can not present any evidence. Yet, they think they are correct and they have some kinds of right to insult and abuse other people.
Last sixty years history of Israel and Faruque Hunter’s debate (or insult) style, strategy and tactics are good enough for this time.
Faruqe Hunter has failed to answer six points of mine in my link (http://pcjqanj.blogspot.com/2010/02/faruque-hunter-of-electronic-frontier.html). Yet, he is giving me lecture! Do you call it promiscuity for virginity?
Nazi Zionist groups have managed to enslave USA, Yahoo Q and A! As a result, no one is even allowed to debate or discuss any and all issues we are discussing here!! They would like run the world with manipulation and deception.
I hope you got the picture and that’s why I am in this Electronic Frontier. I support the notion of free internet because I don’t like to be controlled by those Megabyte Nazis as their records are very bad. I also can see from a safe distance that the intent and purpose of these Megabyte Nazis are worse.
Why Are The Americans Suffering From Incapacitation Of Free Speech?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoxoCt08ZPq1Fv3pFXmq.vPsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100205081349AANJVBP
Where is the free speech in USA? Why can’t they debate and discuss the actual issue?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkuuDCHAHfL4NexkqtXVP9Hsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100205074714AAI0gcH
Why did Yahoo remove the question below? Are they afraid of the truth or enslaved by the Zionists?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Asfkqh8.sh7dmVdwnO3UleTsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100205072605AAA3lkP
Do You Like To Know Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier?
Faruque Hunter of Electronic Frontier
http://pcjqanj.blogspot.com/2010/02/faruque-hunter-of-electronic-frontier.html
Hunting Faruque Hunter said…
Dear JJx
Hunting Faruque Hunter is my Job.
Just Take It Easy. Everything will be Allright.
I Think I Know Who you Are .
A Coward and and a Genetically Defective Sub Humanoid Foetus , Harbouring Gonorrohea.
It is better for you to be isolated and broken into Carbon and dirty air.
February 6, 2010 12:21 AM
Faruque Ahmed (alias Anti JJX, alias Austro Bangla, alias Taxi Revolution, and many other aliases) is a Sydney taxi driver, Jew-hater and all-round nutcase who, when he isn’t driving a taxi and calling up talk-back radio, composes and sends insane and barely comprehensible emails to websites around the world, including his own Yahoogroup, ‘Free America Now,’ which hosts a number of Jew-haters, Nazis, KKK types and assorted morons similar in outlook to himself.
One of the practices of Faruque Ahmed is to post under invented names – in the case of this site, Anti JJX – and express agreement with himself and proclaim that ‘Faruque’ is a jolly good chap and very intelligent too. He does this because, if he didn’t, no one else would.
Faruque Ahmed, your six points of ‘evidence’ are evidence of nothing but the existence of your bigotted mind and non-existent reasoning. They are not based on a wide-ranging assessment of known facts that are logically constructed into an argument, they are just a series of cherry-picked, infantile pronouncements that reveal your prejudices. They say nothing about Israel and nothing about Jews, but plenty about you. They are, in effect, a Rorschach test that reveals your unhealthy mental states.
If you want to provide evidence then do so in relation to these:
1. That Israel is conducting genocide against Arabs. (‘Genocide’ means the deliberate attempt to exterminate an entire race of people.)
2. That there is a ‘Holocaust’ occurring against Arabs. (Where are the extermination camps? Where are the mass executions?)
I know in advance that you will not answer these because:
(i) No evidence exists
(ii) You are a moron
(iii) You are insane.
Have a nice day.
Anti JJX (in reality, Faruque Ahmed): “hunting Faruque Hunter is my Job, I am Just doing my Job. The Bounty is Satisfaction while protecting Humanity from Zionist Israelis.”
Faruque Ahmed, your Job is making an idiot of yourself and your Bounty is delusions of grandeur.
Dear JJx
I think Your limbic Pathways have retroverted to foetal stage. And Somehow you have back to your mothers womb.Just wait until a Arab Shetty Shakes you 69 times and gives you some nucleoprotein to feed.
In Talmud it said about you.
Thank You Faruque We the Internet Community value any properly substantiated material.
Faruque Hunter,
“In Talmud it said about you.” What is the message of Talmud about me, AntiJJX and others anyway?
Oh, by the way,
Are you a professor of “Moronolgy” which empowered you to call others Moron?
Are you a professor of “Idiocy” which empowered you to call others Idiot?
Are you a professor of “Stupidity” which empowered you to call others Stupid?
Are you a professor of “Insanity” which empowered you to call others Insane?
Or is it true that you must volunteer yourself to the nearest gas chamber as it is long overdue. I say so, because due to the existence of an oxygen thief like you, the world is full of unjustified and unwarranted prejudice and bigotry .
I Agree with the Comments made By Mr Faruque Ahmed, which is alot more Credible and well substanciated than some monkey Guy who Calls himself Faruque Hunter.
His comments are false and do not have substance
He Believs That This whole world is under Israeli Occupation.
May Jesus bring him to the Right Path Although his ancestors did Killed Jesus.
John MacKay
Anti JJX,
Have you read the book Mohammad Killed Jesus?
If not, please goggle it.
Holy Moses! The gibbering nutcase and professor of moronology, Faruque Ahmed, is conducting a conversation with himself!
“Thank you Faruque,” he says to himself, “We the Internet Community value any properly substantiated material.”
This lunatic is so puffed up with self-importance that he creates another persona to congratulate himself on what he himself says, most of which is completely incomprehensible. He then takes it upon himself to speak on behalf of the entire “Internet Community.” And all of this is predicated on his belief that he’s fooling everyone into believing that Anti JJX is a real person. What a pompous and arrogant imbecile!
Moreover, this man is so stupid that he believes “substantiated” means stating a prejudice and providing no reasoning or evidence for it. The fact is that Faruque Ahmed would have difficulty substantiating that he possesses an arsehole, let alone anything more intellectually demanding than that.
His quip about the gas chamber reveals much about his moronic mind.
By your own words do you condemn yourself, Faruque Ahmed, you moron.
Hi DJ
It is not You It is your Frustation Speaking.
( If you were a Human Hey But looking all your replies you cannot be a sane person
You can Be only a Dirty Israeli Zionazi.
“Wise” Faruque Hunter,
Could you kindly point out which of these maps are not true and accurate? Could you also let us know, are they enough to prove that the Israeli Holocaust in the occupied Palestine is real and happening right here right now, in front of you and me?
First Jewish colony in Palestine, 1878
http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/MAPS/first_zionist_colony.htm
to
United Nations Partition Plan-UN Resolution 181, 1947 / Rhodes Armistice Line, 1949
http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/MAPS/1947-un-partition-plan-reso.html
to
Projection of the West Bank Final Status Map presented by Israel, Camp David, July 2000
http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/MAPS/wbgs_campdavid.html
Thanks Mr Faruque Ahmed very well substantiated claim of Yours.
Lets see how the DG Lies now ( He will , It in His genes )
Hi
It is dj and not DJ
Faruque Ahmed and his brainless alter-ego are at it again!
Ahmed, I’d be the last person to deny that an occupation of Arab lands has taken place with the establishment of the state of Israel. This is a grave injustice that needs to be resolved through, in my view, a trade off of land for peace and some other kind of meaningful restitution for those who have lost land and property. There must also be provision for a right of return. These problems can only be resolved through the efforts of well-meaning people on both sides.
The Palestinians have certainly been subject to expulsion, occupation and domination but these do not constitute a ‘holocaust’ or genocide, as you stupidly claim, Ahmed. Morons like you who peddle insane lies about holocausts and genocides and Israel being worse than Hitler contribute nothing to the resolution of the situation. You only constitute an embarrassment to the Palestinian side.
If there is genocide taking place, Ahmed, then put up some maps that show the locations of the extermination camps. Also explain why there are nearly a million Arabs living in Israel as enfranchised Israeli citizens and their number is increasing. If there was genocide taking place the number of Arabs would be decreasing, wouldn’t it? And rapidly so. Explain this inconsistency in your idiotic theory, you moron.
And while you’re at it explain what DJ stands for? It certainly isn’t Disc Jockey, is it? Do you have the courage to say it? I think not.
Your statement in relation to me, “Lets see how the DG [sic] Lies now ( He will , It in His genes ),” is beneath contempt and demonstrates what a moronic, Nazi imbecile you are.
Hi Faruque
The dj is telling that he really is dj. Cmmon dj thi s what you think of me i think of you in a similar way.
Please do not put any more efforts to deal with dj
I think you shoul dput your energy to unite us and explain how zionazis are brainwashing 24/7
Regards
Anti jjs